The Wiki article on Patripassian has been corrupted by trinitarians and ignorant Oneness proponents. I am amazed that any Oneness would divide Jesus into two persons: the Father and the Son, and claim the Father as a person did not experience the rejection of the Jews and the suffering of Jesus upon the Cross.
I am a Patripassian. I know what Patripassians believe. I am not a trinitarian and I am not a Oneness two-god. I am a Monarchian. I follow Noetus, Praxeas and Sabellian. I follow the Apostles. The following note was attached to the Wiki article on Patripassianism after the trinitiarians and rouge Oneness butchered it and put lies into it.
Are you a Patripassian? Would you openly confess it if you were. Read below and see if you are Patripassian, trinitarian, or a Oneness two-god.
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Patripassian (Wikipedia Notes--you can Google "Reckart Patripassianism:)
I am not sure who the person is who is responsible for putting a lot of lies in this Wiki subject. It is not only unfounded slander, it is an outright sin of bearing false witness. The hate and bigotry that is spewed is easily seen. If you are that person you should be ashamed. You will go to no lengths to post lies. When lies must be used to slander, they can never do trinitarianism a favor. This Wiki subject should not be a place to vent your hate.
This name was first used by Tertullian against the Monarchians (Modalist) when he became a trinitarian Montanist. The Monarchians believed the Father suffered as the Son. They base this belief upon the statement of Jesus that it was the Father in him that did the works he performed. This was added to the statement that the Father departed from the body of the Son upon the Cross, where-upon Jesus cried: "My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me." The Father was in the Son up to this forsaking moment. Only a deceiver would claim the Father did not experience the sufferings of the Son during the time he was in the body of the Son.
The Monarchians did not claim the Father died. They did claimed the Father suffered with the son on the Cross until the moment Jesus cried "My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me." The false allegations by trinitarians are not proven to be true. They are nothing but copy, cut, and paste hate rants of trinitarians against the Oneness people.
“Kallistos tried to find a compromise formula in this Christological confusion. Father, Son and Logos, he held, are all names of “one indivisble spirit.” Yet Son is also the proper designation of that which was visible, Jesus; while the Father was the spirit in Him. This presence of the Faher in Jesus is the Logos. Kallistos was positive that the Father did not suffer on the cross, but suffered with the sufferings of the Son, Jesus; yet the Father “after He had taken unto Himself our flesh, raised it to the nature of deity, by bringing it into union with Himself, and made it one, so that Fahter, and Son must be styled one God" (History of the Christian Church, Williston Walker, 1949; page75).
The accusation of Patripassian to mean the Father died when the Son died is false. Modalist have never said this. They have been accused of saying this by lying Catholic monks. Other trinitarians accepting the lies of the papacy spread the same hate.
Dr. Gary Reckart has explained what the Patripassians believed. It is time for trinitarians to allow the Oneness Monarchians to explain what they mean by "patripassian" and Dr. Reckart has done that. Has anyone proven the Father was not in the Son? Has anyone proven the Father forsook the body of the Son before he began his sufferings? Isn't it time for trinitarians to end the centuries long libel, hate, and bigotry against Modalist and confess with Pope Calixtus the Father did suffer in the body of the Son?
Bishop Reckart
Defending Patripassianism Like No Other Living Soul Today
I have heard this libel before. I have often confess that I am a patripassion. Do I believe the Father died? Answer, no. A true patripassion does not believe the father died as the liars are claiming.
ReplyDeleteThanks for reminding us Bishop of such a beautiful truth.
Also, it is clear that Oneness as seen under the term "Modalists" were patripassion, so those who oppose are not modalist and oneness. I am Oneness is my belief in God.
Thank you.
Peace
Yes Pastor Reckart! "God is a Spirit"-John 4:24 and He was in Christ 2 Cor. 5:19 and not Co-Existing with a Christ! One God did not send another (Logos) lesser God. God came Himself 1 Tim. 3:16, John 1:10, Col. 1:15, 19, Col. 2:9. An Eternal Almighty Spirit can not die. Messiah the body died. Trinitarians have one of their Gods dying and the poor Father God cried and did nothing in Glory. How sad.
ReplyDeleteZechariah 12:9-11 “And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. 10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. 11 In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.”
Note that Israel will be shocked and will mourn greatly and finally realize that the Lord God that will save them at “Armageddon” is none other than Jesus! The Lord God is speaking here and He says that “they shall look upon me (God) whom they have pierced,” or crucified! Acts 20:28 plainly also teaches that it was the one and only God that gave Himself at Calvary!
“Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.”
1 Corinthians 2:8 also confirms that it was Jesus who is the Lord God from glory that was crucified. Had the Roman government realized that he was the God of glory they would not have crucified Him! “Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.”
If folks don't teach and believe and love this One God message then they are not really N.T. Apostolic Monotheist. Dr. Willis
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Delete"Acts 20:28 plainly also teaches that it was the one and only God that gave Himself at Calvary!"
Here's one of the portions where KJV is wrong, & is not the only one, pastor Reckart has explained this.
It doesn't say "with his own blood", but "with the same blood", clearly means that salvation it is only through the Blood of the Man Christ Jesus, the Holy Lamb of God.
Here's how the Greek NT Stephanus Textus Receptus has it:
προσέχετε οὖν ἑαυτοῖς καὶ παντὶ τῷ ποιμνίῳ ἐν ᾧ ὑμᾶς τὸ πνεῦμα τὸ ἅγιον ἔθετο ἐπισκόπους ποιμαίνειν τὴν ἐκκλησίαν τοῦ θεοῦ ἣν περιεποιήσατο διὰ (through) τοῦ (the) ἰδίου (same) αἵματος (blood).
Brother Harp on another post wrote about the 2 Men. Adam & Jesus Christ, the Perfect Lamb. That is what is written in Romans 5, & there the KJV is correct:
Romans 5:15
But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
In the Greek there's not even a coma there, please notice again from the Textus Receptus:
Ἀλλ οὐχ ὡς τὸ παράπτωμα οὕτως καὶ τὸ χάρισμα· εἰ γὰρ τῷ τοῦ ἑνὸς παραπτώματι οἱ πολλοὶ ἀπέθανον πολλῷ μᾶλλον ἡ χάρις τοῦ θεοῦ καὶ ἡ δωρεὰ ἐν χάριτι τῇ τοῦ (the) ἑνὸς (one) ἀνθρώπου (Man) Ἰησοῦ (Jesus) Χριστοῦ (Christ) εἰς τοὺς πολλοὺς ἐπερίσσευσεν
So many apostolics believe that the Father Himself was on that cross! No, thousand times No. God provided The perfect & holy Man to be the eternal sacrifice for our sins & iniquities. It had to be, just think about it.
What the greatest prophet said?
John 1:29:
The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
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